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is their not for profit arm which does a lot of work with human resources for members of the screen actors guild. every year, i'm assuming they're going to have a new ambassador to represent the foundation at the sarnoceremonies and to pres check that has been raised for their efforts. they're going to present a check for a million dollars, but i'm very, very proud to have that role, that kind of ad hoc roll for them and i'm proud of my union. >> it's been a great pleasure. thank you very much indeed. >> my thanks to you. >> that's all for us tonight. "ac 360" starts right now. >> piers, thanks. we begin tonight keeping them honest, with a fight for florida with round house punches that mitt romney and newt gingrich are throwing in english and spanish. a new poll that shows how close the battle is tonight. a debate tomorrow night with
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santorum and ron paul. new cnn polling shows a statistical dead heat. look at that, 36% to 34%. well within the five-point margin of error. romney there at the 36%. that's from sampling done sunday, monday, and tuesday. as always, expect the numbers to change. expect tomorrow night's debate to move that needle as well. also expect more of what we saw today. each candidate hammering the other. [ speaking spanish ] >> the gingrich campaign today stopped running the spanish language radio spaup accusing romney of being quote the most anti-immigration candidate in the debate. they took it down after mark rubio took strong exceptions to it calling it inaccurate and inappropriate. romney had an ad slamming gingrich for being the ultimate
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washington insider. romney has striebed him as a fo former lobbyist for the giant. today we heard about it. >> you work for the people of freddie mac. >> i'm glad you ask that. i work for the people, of course, i work for the people. now, and by the way -- now, now. this is a free country, and people are allowed to come and be noisy. it's part of the american tradition. i just want to say for the record, i don't know that this lady wants to listen, but i will say to the rest of you for the record, if you go to the july 2008 "new york times," you'll see the only reference to my talking to congress about freddie mac. i told the house republicans to vote no on giving them any more money. i was opposed to them getting
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more money. and that is a fact. >> keeping them honest tonight, was speaker gingrich a lobbyist. two members of congress, republican, say he was. they say gingrich lobbiy eied t. tonight, we have new details. first, listen to how he described his role back in november. >> i have never done any lobbying. every contractor was in the period when i was out of the office, said i would do no lobbying, and i offered my advice. when they walked in and said we are now giving loans to people with no credit history and no record of paying anything back, i said at the time, this is a bubble. this is insane. this is impossible. >> his consulting firm was paid $25,000 a month for years. they said freddie mac would pay that kunind of money for a hi histori historian's advice.
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they released some of the contract with freddie, who was big about newt's services. last night, we got the contract that goes into more detail. it explains a wide range of bullet points he would provide. two that stand out is to serve as adviser to freddie mac in the areas of strateging planning and policy for freddie mac priority issues. also to engage in discussions with plichal delk and other senior officers of freddie mac relative to strategize on approaches to freddie mac business opportunities and challenges. that was the senior environment of government relations, their chief lobbyist. according to open secret database, he was indeed a lobbyist for freddie mac. speaker gingrich's contract specify issues of public policy and he was specifically hired to work with freddie's head lobbyist. they could get the impression that lobbying in everything but
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name, but there is this. quote, nothing herein is or shall be construed as an agreement to provide lobbying services of any kind or engage in lobbying activity. kevin is a form er spokesman. kevin, could it be a mistake for the romney campaign to push this freddie mac attack when their own campaign might get caught in the cross fire? >> it's an important part of the contrast you're going to try to place before voters in florida. right now, i think voters are going to have to decide whether or not they want a thomnominee the party and a president of the country who has been someone who has been a washington insider, who made their career in washington, d.c., or whether or not they want someone like governor romney who built his career in the private sector outside of washington, d.c. and is a very successful governor and headed the olympics in 2002. those kinds of contrasts at a time when voters are making that critical choice in a place like
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florida and through the course of considerations voters are going to go through the rest of the primary calendar, it's an important decision to make. >> newt gingrich did work for freddie mac. romney did not. why keep this story line going? >> you have to ask the romney people this because they picked the fight. after the wheels came off the inevitability train, they needed to go back to the play book. he was the only electable one. the inevitable one. having broke the back of ele electability and show we can beat obama the way romney beat obama, we wanted a level playing field, but now all of this is incoming about freddie mac. you know the reports today. it turns out in governor romney's own tax returns, he and his wife had invested hundreds and thousands of dollars in mutual funds in government skurs including fannie and freddie. >> by pairing him with freddie
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mac as well, that nullifies -- >> no, that's pathetic. i don't think one job was created, one job was saved from foreclosure, and one voter learned much about anything. kevin is a great friend and i respect him greatly, but if i see one more person with images of the capital and the monument talking about what a great person newt gingrich is, you have to have some kind of experience for the job. you can't just parachute in. i notice something by omission that governor romney and smart people like him do, they never talk about his record as governor. he doesn't just have a background in the private sector. he was governor for four years. >> we thought the race would tighten a bit in florida. it's 23 points closer than it was two weeks ago. what happened to your candidate in your opinion? >> this always happens. we have been around enough of these campaigns to knee that at the beginning, we know no matter what you have with a 22-point
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lead, 15-point lead, it's going to turn into a two-point lead. we were not kidding as the campaign when we said very early on in this earlier part of this year that this was going to be a very close race. kellyann mentioned the idea of inevitability. nobody in boston, nobody working for romney across the country believed this was an inevitable nomination. >> on your website, i believe it said about south carolina, on tuesday, the presidential candidate will be selected. i remember seeing that. >> i tell you, there's another thing, too, anderson. never anything wrong with having a lot of confidence. you have to send those types of messages to your supporters. but this is going to be a hard fought race. the polls are reflecting that close race. that's why everybody is down in florida working very hard to reach as many voters as possible, to talk to them about governor romney's experience and
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what he will do to fix the economy. >> let's talk about the polls, too. gingrich has, if you look at the data closely, he has fallen off post-monday night's debate. why do you think that is? >> well, i think in our previous program, you saw the charts that showed how much negative advertising is being spent by which campaigns and which super pacs. that's not even close. that's not a close race, within a margin error. governor romney's campaign are spending lots of money. not with positive ads about his record, you'll understand why he doesn't talk about that. >> the absentee votes are already in. and it was a tie when the votes were made, don't you have to do better than simply what you might otherwise be able to do. >> absolutely correct. that's the mathematical calculation, and part of why governor romney benefitted so greatly from the earl aabsentee
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voters is everyone was pushing that he was the inevitable nominee. it was going to be over before south carolina. people leaned into what they were told. he can win, he can win. the average voter doesn't ask themselves, and he win? and you're seeing an expanded leadership role. >> can mitt romney afford to lose florida. what does it mean for his campaign? >> i think we're going to do very well in florida and compete strongly there. that's going to be evident come tuesday. but i think that this campaign that has been built to endure the longhaul. this is a delegate fight and we're going to need over 1,5 h0 delegates when we get to tampa. if we don't win florida, although i feel confident about our chances here, this goes on to arizona, michigan, the nevada caucuses. >> if he doesn't win florida, there would be a shock wave through that campaign, no? >> look, i think that the focus will remain on winning delegates
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all the way to tampa. that remains the case. this is still a campaign that has the organization, has the right message, and has the resources to continue on. and i can't emphasize that we feel good about florida. >> kevin. >> we feel even better. >> do you say if romney doesn't win florida, that is huge? >> it's a huge shock wave because they keep making excuses for each state they don't win. florida is more diverse, more like the rest of the custry. the fact is that what will happen will be an extension of 2010 when the voters say i'm not going to tell me who i can vote for. >> another quick reminder, the next gop debate is going to be fascinating. tomorrow night, 8:00 eastern time followed at 10:00 by a special edition of "360." applause is allowed at this debate, i understand. up next, keeping them honest on
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president obama made fresh promises to go after mortgage fraud and he outlined a new mortgage fraud investigation unit and named eric schneiderman to run it. >> i'm asking my attorney general to create a special unit of prosecutors and the leading state attorney generals to expand the investigation into the abuse of housing and mortgage crisis. it will hold kaektable those who break the law and helps turn a page on an era of recklessness that hurt so many americans. >> high urged to give people a break. >> i'm sending the congress a plan that gives every responsibility homeowner a chance to save about $3,000 a year on their mortgage by refinancing at historically low
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rates. no more red tape. >> both of those proposals on mortgages and financial fraud don't sound familiar. they're nearly identical to promises he has already made and programs he's already launched. >> the plan i'm announcing focuses on rescuing families who played by the rules and acted responsibilitiy, by refiance ansing loans for millions of families who are under water or close to it by modifying loans for families stuck in subprime mortgages they can't afford as a result of skyrocketing interesting rates or personal misfortune and taking steps to keep the rates low so families can secure loans. >> that's president obama in 2009 talking about mortgage refinancing, and here is eric holder on the same year unveiling the new financial investigation unit. >> i'm pleased today to announce the launch of an interagency
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financial fraud enforcement task force. the task force is designed to strengthen our collective efforts in conjunction with the federal, state, and local partners to prosecution crimes relating to the current financial crisis, to recover ill-gotten gains and insure just and effective punishment. >> sounds familiar. they promised to lower monthly payments for 3 million to 4 million borrowers. instead, 9 million owners had been offered lower rates on a timperary basis, and they raised questions about president obama's ability to deliver on his promises. jessica joins us from chandler, arizona, where she's traveling with the president. the administration created a task force in 2009 to
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investigate and prosecute financial crimes. is the new unit showing that the last unit wasn't that effective. >> it's an attempt to appease critics of the administration who have been outraged from the beginning of the administration that not a single high level executive has been jailed for blowing up the housing market and for abuse of mortgage practices. it's an attempt to show his base some sight. so i spoke to one source in the know on all this. he said because of the new task force, you will now see charges brought by the end of this year. i spoke to another source who said, really? what the heck has taken so long the only he didn't use the word heck. >> is it an election year. eric schneiderman, who has been critical of the administration dealing with big surfaces, was it intended to silence critics who say they haven't done enough to go after big business.
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>> he has been one of a handful of state attorneys general who has been reluctant hold-out on a deal that the department of justice is trying to cut with some of the big banks over bad mortgages. and these attorneys general have not liked the way this deal is going. and shu snyderman has been one of the folks saying i'm not willing to sign on if you're going in that direction. so either he has cut a political deal with the administration and he will soon sign on to this thing in exchange for this high profile political apoinment or he and the administration are about to be in a very awkward political position if he abstains and we just won't know until this deal is announced, anderson. what schneiderman's fans say is he's using the government to get access to the tools, investigative tools that the irs and sec to go after more banks in his state, new york, to get
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access to through this new posting. we have to wait a little longer to see how it plays out. >> thanks. comedian and political commentator bill maher isn't one to mince words. his new show is called crazy stupid politics. going to be shown live on yahoo on february 23rd. he's got plenty to say about the republican field, but he doesn't shy away from criticizing president obama, either. i spoke to him earlier today. >> when you hurbd the president announce in the state of the union that his administration is now going after the banks who were neck deep in the mortgage crisis, is that a decisive move or too little too late or election yearappeasement, what do you think? ? a breath of fresh air to find some reality on my television. i have been doing nush nothing, as most people have for many months, watching republicans debate each other in this bubble of irrealty that live in.
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so to see someone talking facts, yes, maybe it is too late, but we're living in a world, unlike the one mitch daniels was portraying whether it's not haves and have nots, it's haves and soon to be haves. this fantasy land, the carrot that they're always holding in front of people. at least obama is living in the world of reality, would be my answer. >> you said in the past you have been terribly disappointed with him. i think you at one point said the magic is gone with obama. do you still feel that? >> this is what us liberals do. we carp and complain and lose perspective sometimes. there are ways in which obama has been disappointing, but he always seems to come up in the bottom of the ninth and hit it out of the park like i thought he did last night, and nothing focused the mind so much as seeing republicans. i'm sorry, but when you see newt
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gingrich and rick santorum and mitt romney standing together, it makes obama look pretty good. it really makes me run back into his arms screaming. >> so you're optimistic for this elikz? you think no matter who the republican candidates are, obama is going to win? >> definitely. i think -- my money is still on mitt romney, and i think he's going to get the nomination, and i think obama is going to beat him like a run-away sister wife, yes i do. >> a run-away sister wife. i haven't heard an flds punch line in quite a while. >> you should come to my stand-up show. >> all right, why do you think romney can't win? >> well, first of all, he's a rich guy in an environment now that is very poisonous for the wealthy. and he's got a lot of baggage. you know, even his own base
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doesn't really like him. you know, some people in this country will not vote for a mormon. he's got that going against him. but basically, he just -- he's a flip-flopper. it's interesting, the republicans ran against john kerry in 2004, remember, he was a flip-flopper. they hated him for flip-flopp g flip-flopping. now, they have the biggest flip-flopper of all. they have to flip-flop on flip-flopping. and i think, you know, again, we have only heard the republican side for so long. these endless debates, too many, anderson, really. >> you think? >> i know you have one coming up. >> they have been good. >> i mate the point on our show friday night that the good baits have been a good thing. for example, we would have never found out that rick perry was an idiot. you know, he was the guy that everybody was banking on for a while because he was just this mythical figure from texas. they didn't know much about him.
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he looked like a president. standing tall in the saddle, a little sound bite. then he had a chance to open his mouth. like the cute guy in the bar. the girls get a chance to meet him, then he talks for two minutes and they're like, get me away from this guy. that was from the debate. there's a point where it's too much. why do we need two debates in florida three night across. it's like a television series. you love it, you live it, at some point, it hits a peak, and that's where we are. monday was a bad episode. a bad episode of the series. >> we're going to have applause and cheering in the upcoming cnn debate. >> that's right. newt gingrich needs a mob. he needs the crowd. i think he said he wasn't going to participate unless there was cheering and the crowd was allowed to make sounds in the upcoming debate. he was throwing out the red meat
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and the lion was just laying there. that's no good for him. that's what he depends on. it's also better for the viewer, for the fans, for the fan of this reality series. i like to see the crowd cheer, and i would love to see newt be the candidate because i think he's even more beatable. obama is beating him in texas in the polls. texas. so if they want to nominate newt gingrich, this is a great day for liberals. >> we have a question from shaun, is there a position on which you agree with the republican candidates? you said at least in terms of foreign policy, you're on the same page as ron paul. >> absolutely. but ron paul certainly doesn't express the opinions of most republican voters, i don't think. most republican voters look at or at least the audience when ron paul, and i have to say, ron paul has some crazy ideas like getting rid of the fed, let's go back to the whims of the mining industry and the gold standard.
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you know, stuff that i don't agree on, what he said about health care, we should go back to neighbors helping out. just loony. but when it comes to things like the drug war and foreign policy, this guy is so great. and also even when i don't agree with him, at least he's honest. at least you get the feeling this is an authentic person saying what he believes. as far as what he said about foreign policy, the guts to stand up there debate after debate while they boo him or look at him like he's got three heads. the others stare at him like what are you talking ability, the golden rule. this is a party that loves ju s jesus. what are you doing quoting the golden rule. >> bill maher, great to have you on. thank you. okay, anderson. >> ahead on 360. the rescue of two aide workers. held hostage.
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and even though the news didn't break until later, we got an indication that something was up and the president greeted leon panetta at the state of the union. >> just seconds into the president's arrival at his state of the union speemp, the first hint something had happened. >> good job tonight. good job tonight. >> at the moment he congratulated his defense secretary, u.s. operation forces were winding down an operation halfway around the world. they had been searching for the aide workers since october. the somali workers abducted jessica buchanan and gesscaw fested. they obtained specific intell, where the hostages were and who was holding them, but a sense of urgency was building. >> jessica's health was beginning to decline. she's a young woman in her 30s.
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we wanted to act, and they did. >> president obama green lighted the mission monday night. the weather was perfect for a tuesday night assault. and secretary leon panetta monitored the situation from the white house, special operations forces parachuted into the yare yau yeah. among them, the same unit that killed osama bin laden, if thought the same men from the mission. they confronted nine kidnappers with guns and explosives nearby and killed all nine. they found the hostages and hustled them onto helicopters and out of somalia. >> just an incredible operation. chris joins me live from the pentagon. you mentiont that jessica buchanan's helelth was beginnin to decline. do knee know how she's doing? >> that's what they say was one of the main reasons they went on the mission, exactly when they did, on the same day as the
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president's state of the union address, but they won't comment specifically on her medical condition because of privacy laws. an official with the group for which she worked said she wasn't that sick. she nay have needed medicine at that point, but they're both doing okay and their families are traveling to meet with them now. >> you say the s.e.a.l.s are the same that work ed in the elite six. >> there are only about 300 of them operated now in the world. this is the same team of snipers that took down the pirates on a rocking boat out at sea when they had the captain of the musk alabama captured aboard his ship. there were about 17 s.e.a.l.s killed in a chinook helicopter crash last year in afghanistan. ironically, the man who founded
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co 2-6 said he made up the name to trick people into thinking the united states had more special operations forces than they did at the time. >> there are a lot of hostages from other countries held in somalia. any other hostage from the u.s. held there as far as we know? >> you're right. hostages from india, there philippines, south crkorea. we believe there is one american held by another pirate group. the thing is, there has been so much of this cracked down on pirates at sea, they have now gone to land to target some of the aide workers. you have worked with these groups in seo many countries. they're son shoestring budgets. they can't begin to afford the millions of dollars in ransom the pirates want. >> i think there was a french national who was being held hostage for a while back. i'm not sure if he has been found. the white house released a picture of the president calling jessica's dad after he delivered
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the state of the union. do we know when she comes home? >> we don't believe she's going to come home to the united states. she was married. she had been working as a teacher in nairobi, so she lives overseas with her husband and we believe her family is on their way to europe to meet up with her. >> we wish her the best and remarkable, the precision of the teams. so glad they were able to come home safely. >> ahead in the program, accusations of the so-called honor killing in canada. three sisters allegedly killed by their own family. we'll explain that ahead. first, isha is back. >> thousands of egyptians packed cairo's square on this, the one-year anniversary of the start of the revolution that ousted hosni mubarak. it was at times joyous and at times tense. and joe paterno was laid to rest today in a private service, and thousands of fans and students
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lined the funeral procession to say good-bye. a memorial will be held tomorrow on campus. he died sunday at the age of 85. >> and anderson, talk about a fashion statement. a golden cape made of silk extracted by spiders goes on display. to make the case, dozens of handlers spent seven years collecting more than 1.2 million golden orb spiders like this one. what do you think? >> i don't understand. i'm completely mystified. it's a golden cape made by spiders? >> it's a golden cape. there you see the cape there. >> a golden color, i see. okay. not made out of gold. >> a golden hue. >> hue, okay. >> and the spiders spun the silk. >> how do you train the spiders to do that? >> this is what they do. >> work harder.
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>> faster, fast. and now you're getting me kiki with you. pay attention. then they pluck the spiders from their web, take the silk, return the spiders to the wild, and then they would start to spin their webs again. >> itsy bitsy spider. thank you. >> you didn't really appreciate it. >> i'm completely baffled, but i think it's amazing, i guess. do the spiders get paid? >> move on. >> still ahead, crime and punishment. a remarkable story. family tragedy. three sisters dead. their parents call it a horrific accident. investigator say it was an honor killing linked to their fate. >> plus, a follow-up. mississippi authorities offering a reward on information on where a freed inmate is hiding, an inmate pardoned by a governor who didn't show up in court this week. i love that my daughter's part fish.
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crime and punishment now, in a canadian courtroom, a headline grabbing trials. a prosecution said three young sisters were married by parents and a brother. honor killing because the girls had become too westernized. the defense said they died in an accident in a family car. some of the most compelling evidence came from wire taps. >> in so many ways, the sisters were typical teens, smart, beautiful, they enjoyed going out with friends and flirting with boys.
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but that's what might have gotten them killed. it was during a family vacation in june 2009 when a car carrying a 19-year-old, 17-year-old, and 13-year-old, and the woman they knew as auntie, mysteriously plunged into this open canal, drowning all four. the girl's parents, tearful in interviews, explained it was a horrific accident during a pit stop on their trip back from niagara falls. the parents said the girls took the car out for a spin while the rest of the family remained at the hotel in kingston, ontario. even as their bod as were taken out of the water, as the vehicle was dragged out, police say they were learning something very different about what went on there that night, and more importantly, what was going on in the household. suspicious police bugged the
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minivan. what they heard, they say, evidence of first degree murder. investigators claim hours of wire tapped conversations reveal how and why the parents and along with their son, planned the murders. they also learned the so-called auntie rona was in fact mohammed's other wife in a secret polygamous emergency. mother, father, and son were charged with murder in the summer of 2009. now they're on trial. they have all pled not guilty. prosecutors are relying heavily on the bugged conversation. in one, they say in the afghan language, i say to myself, you did well. would they come back to life 100 times, you should do the same again. in another, may the devil defecate on their graves.
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this is what a daughter should be? would a daughter be such a whore? >> i think the wire taps are extremely damaging to all three of them. >> christy blanchford has sat there all of the evidence, the wire tapping, the prosecution, and she has become an expert. >> when you said may the devil [ bleep ] on their grave, what did you mean by that? what other possible explanation but that is there for these things? >> but interrogations the family never uncovered a motive. why would a mother, father, and brother kill four members of their own family? the prosecution contends these were honor killings. carried out by parents from a very conservative afghan background to punish rubellious, increasingly westernized
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daughters. zahar wore revealing clothes and had secret boyfriends, and little gita was failing in school and calling social workers to get her out of a violent home. auntie rona was their advktd. how the girls died is also a mystery. but they have clues. the shattered headlight in the car matches the rear damage on the girls' car. they say it was rammed into the canal. police also believe the victims may have been killed or beaten unconscious before the car hit the water. that would explain why they didn't escape even though their seat belts were unbuckled and the canal was only seven feet deep. in one of the most chilling conversations recorded, mohammed labeled his daughters dirty whores, steadfast, he says, my conscience is clear. prosecutors are now trying to prove that honor was more important than life.
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even if it meant killing their three daughters. >> the worst idea of honor. we have seen this in turkey and in pakistan and afghanistan. see it in canada, the defense team finished up its closing arguments today. what did the lawyers put forward to try to dispute the wire tap evidence and for reasonable doubt? >> this case, anderson, is still circumstantial. what the prosecution doesn't have, an exact time of death, even though they know around. the defense trying to say, look, they didn't have time to kill their family. these were not women who were being led like lambs to slaughter. they would have fought back. this could not have possibly happened. but to your point earlier, anderson, about the fact these are honor killings. the defense is trying to hone in on motive. they claim there was no motive. this family would have never wiped out these women in such a cruel, malicious way. the mothers even getting on the stand and saying i have never heard of honor killings.
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they're really trying to say that, look, even if they have to call those dead women liars and the defense did it point blank today. they were very blunt, they lied to social workers. they lied to people saying they were abusing this family, so they could get their way. >> the mom actually got on the stand and said she had never heard of honor killing? >> absolutely. she said it wise. >> i mean, hard to believe. i think anybody who has traveled at all in any part of the world has heard of them. paula, appreciate the reporting. >> up next, an amotional day on the house floor as gabby giffords steps down. two dozen people are killed in syria. passport?
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on the house floor today, congressman gabby giffords cast a final vote before stepping down to focus on her recovery from a gun shot wound a year ago. an emotional moment as her colleagues paid tribute to her. here is dana bash. >> gabby giffords emotional, final morning as a member of congress began with a labored last walk to the house chamber. and ended with the behind the scenes moment captured by cnn. a hug by one of the mini workers she encountered in her many years here. on the floor, moving tributes. she has brought the word dignity to new heights. by her courage.
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>> as each person spoke, giffords turned in her seat to face them. >> gabby, we love you. we have missed you. >> an occasional wave and a smile to husband mark and mother gloria, and barely a dry eye in the house. >> no matter what we argue about here on this floor or in this country, there is nothing more important than family. and friendship. and that should be held on high above anything else. debb debbie wasserman schultz lent her her voice, reading her resignation letter. >> never did i question the character of those whom i disagreed. never did i turn down the opportunity to join hands with someone just because he or she held different ideals.
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i have given all of myself to walk back on the house floor this year to represent arizona's eighth congressional district. however, today i know now is not the time. i have more work to do on my recovery before i can again serve in elected office. with that, a dramatic line to the speaker's chair to hand a teary john boehner the letter formally ending her service in congress. dana bash, cnn, capitol hill. >> emotional day. let's get to some of the stories we're following. isha is back. >> anderson, a bloody day in syria. activists said 24 people were killed nationwide, including at least four in homes where shelling was heavy. there were also attacks on hamma. a priest and official were killed today. mississippi authorities are helping track down one of four convicted murders, pardoned by
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haley barbour this month. he failed to appear at a court hearing monday on a case questioning the pardons. >> and apple may become the most publicly traded company in the world after reported the best quarterly results in history for a tech company. its stock rose 6.3% to more than $440 a share. that's the latest. >> a connect kick mayor is under fire for insensitive comments about latinos. is an apology enough. soledad o'brien, 7:00 to 9:00 a.m. eastern. >> coming up, a new way to read classic literature in the bat bathro bathroom. all energy development comes with some risk,
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time now for the ridiculist. tonight, we're add agstory about light bathroom reading. someone is selling six rolls of toilet paper on ebay. it contains the entire type written text of moby dick, the entire novel. painstakingly reproduced on four and a half rolls of toilet paper about a fifth of a roll for the epilogue. the seller who goes by the moniker the help cat writes in the description that a friend made a bet that he couldn't write a novel on toilet paper. what more could you ask for
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other than a video of the toilet paper unfrilling as a passage is read. >> for as it turned out, he cared not to consort, even for five minutes, with any stranger captain, except he could contribute some of that information he so absorbingly sought. >> and yeah, we chose that passage because it contained absorbingly. i don't know if it's real. i find it hard to believe, but they can be all yours for $999.95. i know that sounds like a lot of money for six rolls of toilet paper, but imagine if this is real, the time and effort involved here. not since captain a hab himself, have there been such pinpoint focus. it contains about 211,000 words. someone spent about 88 hours typing this, probably more, because i can only imagine how carefully someone must spool toilet